Oh it wasn't how he was acting...that was fine...it was literally the author's choice of words to come out of his mouth...I know from moving his voice in my head to the computer screen that sometimes what I hear just doesn't have the right phrasing or the right choice of words for him and that's what I was experiencing. It felt like the author just didn't choose the right word for him to say....um....the example that comes quickly to mind(can't remember where it was)...but Jack is injured...and Daniel makes tells him that his "arm is busted"....my internal 'Daniel sense' said...nope, that doesn't sound right...Cam would say 'busted'...Jack would say 'busted'...Daniel would say 'broken'...at least IMO. Intially, as much as I loved the 'Duck Dodgers' comment I questionned as to whether it was IC because Daniel isn't know for being up on pop culture, but then I realized that he woulda been watching Duck Dodgers on Bugs Bunny when he was kid, so it just became my absolutely favourite line...even thinking about it now breaks me up. This story would have been way more fun than Continuum was.
See, but I took it as they are close enough as a team that he's picked up on their lingo a little... just like he's inherited Jack's brand of biting sarcasm in a way that it mixes with his own. Does that make sense?
I can't say that! I love Continuuum so much - I think they are both equally good storylines, but it's easier for an author to include so much detail and whatsuch in a novel than it is for the writer of a script/director of the movie to put it in a film b/c there's restraints on time and budget. It's why Roswell seems to have SOOO much more than Continuum - but with Continuum, it gives the audience (or more specifically fanfic writers) a chance to interpret and be creative! XD
Hmm...that does make sense to a certain extent...but even so everytime I read that line my inner 'Daniel sense' cringes... I enjoyed Continuum despite the things about it that irked me...I really enjoyed Daniel's circumstances...twisted huh?lol. So curious now...how do you spin that closing scene on the Tok'ra planet that has offended so many DV shippers?
Oh, Daniel's circumstances in Continuum are just pure awesome! Another hurdle he has to overcome, and you can SEE how hard it is for him to do it (which I think is a testament to how crucial his friends are to him, proved time and again).
And I really don't understand how that scene is offensive. I honestly thought it was VERY them - how Daniel just KNEW she would want to stay and how her "asking" him shows us that Vala feels Daniel's opinion matters. And the comment he gave to Teal'c was very true to form too b/c him and Vala AREN'T the perfect pair of people and they do get on each other's nerves and she's shown time and again how she can be downright annoying and stubborn. I loved that little ending scene b/c it spoke volumes for where their relationship came from and where it's going.
While I absolutely agree about him knowing that she would want to stay...but I'm curious as to what you think it says about their...um...developing relationship? I'm not in complete agreement with everyone else that he's being sarcastic and dismissive of her efforts...I tend to hear it more as he's making a comment that the 'host' is literally in for a tough afternoon because he's going to have come to terms with what he's done for the past 2000 years. I was actually more disappointed in his lack of compassion for the 'host'...if he can help Apophis's host die peacefully, then why wouldn't he help Ba'al's?...yeah, yeah...he's much more cynical now...but that underlying compassionate nature is still there. His lack of compassion for the 'host' was one of the things about Continuum that irked me.
See, this is always the difficult part for me - trying to express why I feel the way i feel about a certain scene! It's why I don't write metas! *snirk* But what it says about their developing relationship? Hmmmm, how to put it... there is a deep root of understanding tying them together, and despite all their disagreements and whatsuch, they will always understand each other and in turn know what the other will ultimately want. Kind of like with what Daniel has with Jack, except with Vala there is a romantic attraction. Yeah, I don't think that did my point justice, but I gave it a try!
As for his lack of compassion - that's interesting b/c I NEVER would have interpreted it that way. And it took me a few minutes to think out why I don't think that... I see Daniel knowing she would want to and letting Vala stay behind as his compassionate gesture to the host. With the case of Apophis, the host was dying - there was nothing that could be done for him. Seeing as the host was originally from Ancient Egypt, Daniel was able to help by guiding him on to the next life. He had enough knowledge to be of assistance. With Ba'al's host, Daniel probably felt he couldn't really help b/c he doesn't know what it's like to go through such hell for so long. So him letting Vala stay behind, who has experience with being a host for an extended period of time, is his way of helping b/c he wouldn't be able to offer the kind of comfort Ba'al's host would need.
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Date: 2009-03-02 03:59 am (UTC)Intially, as much as I loved the 'Duck Dodgers' comment I questionned as to whether it was IC because Daniel isn't know for being up on pop culture, but then I realized that he woulda been watching Duck Dodgers on Bugs Bunny when he was kid, so it just became my absolutely favourite line...even thinking about it now breaks me up.
This story would have been way more fun than Continuum was.
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Date: 2009-03-02 04:12 am (UTC)I can't say that! I love Continuuum so much - I think they are both equally good storylines, but it's easier for an author to include so much detail and whatsuch in a novel than it is for the writer of a script/director of the movie to put it in a film b/c there's restraints on time and budget. It's why Roswell seems to have SOOO much more than Continuum - but with Continuum, it gives the audience (or more specifically fanfic writers) a chance to interpret and be creative! XD
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Date: 2009-03-02 04:21 am (UTC)I enjoyed Continuum despite the things about it that irked me...I really enjoyed Daniel's circumstances...twisted huh?lol.
So curious now...how do you spin that closing scene on the Tok'ra planet that has offended so many DV shippers?
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Date: 2009-03-02 04:36 am (UTC)And I really don't understand how that scene is offensive. I honestly thought it was VERY them - how Daniel just KNEW she would want to stay and how her "asking" him shows us that Vala feels Daniel's opinion matters. And the comment he gave to Teal'c was very true to form too b/c him and Vala AREN'T the perfect pair of people and they do get on each other's nerves and she's shown time and again how she can be downright annoying and stubborn. I loved that little ending scene b/c it spoke volumes for where their relationship came from and where it's going.
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Date: 2009-03-02 04:45 am (UTC)I'm not in complete agreement with everyone else that he's being sarcastic and dismissive of her efforts...I tend to hear it more as he's making a comment that the 'host' is literally in for a tough afternoon because he's going to have come to terms with what he's done for the past 2000 years. I was actually more disappointed in his lack of compassion for the 'host'...if he can help Apophis's host die peacefully, then why wouldn't he help Ba'al's?...yeah, yeah...he's much more cynical now...but that underlying compassionate nature is still there. His lack of compassion for the 'host' was one of the things about Continuum that irked me.
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Date: 2009-03-02 05:00 am (UTC)As for his lack of compassion - that's interesting b/c I NEVER would have interpreted it that way. And it took me a few minutes to think out why I don't think that... I see Daniel knowing she would want to and letting Vala stay behind as his compassionate gesture to the host. With the case of Apophis, the host was dying - there was nothing that could be done for him. Seeing as the host was originally from Ancient Egypt, Daniel was able to help by guiding him on to the next life. He had enough knowledge to be of assistance. With Ba'al's host, Daniel probably felt he couldn't really help b/c he doesn't know what it's like to go through such hell for so long. So him letting Vala stay behind, who has experience with being a host for an extended period of time, is his way of helping b/c he wouldn't be able to offer the kind of comfort Ba'al's host would need.